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Democracy doesn’t work that way stupid!

Editor,

The Fiji Sun paid regime propagandist Nemani Delaibatiki tells us in his article ‘Shut up Beddoes, poll says’ (FS 10/5) that many “part-Europeans who were classified in the old constitution as “others” are now happy because they are now called Fijians like everyone else, under the new Constitution.
I am happy to hear that. There was a time – not too long back – when many “part- Europeans” were happy to regard themselves and to be regarded as Europeans in colonial and post-colonial Fiji society – with all the special privilege that entailed.
Now the part-Europeans have become Fijians and according to Nemani Delaibatiki and the Fiji Sun’s “poll” they want Bainimarama regime critic Mick Beddoes to ” shut up” and ” stop complaining”.
If the Bainimarama regime and the regime mouthpiece paper the Fiji Sun have it their way they would like everyone to shut up and stop complaining. And, this mob claim Fiji is being headed back to democracy.
Democracy doesn’t work that way stupid!
sincerely,
Rajend Naidu
sydney
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13 thoughts on “Democracy doesn’t work that way stupid!

  1. It is possibly too much to beseech Nemani Delaibatiki to grow a frigging spine.

    Not only are his pronouncements so convolutedly vacuous, one could almost be excused for thinking that psychosis has set in.

  2. We should all be proud of our independent media. While Nemani has written a great article on Beddoes’ whinging and the electorates rejection of him questioning everything, Nemani falls short of warning Beddoes of consequences. We can no longer tolerate his disruptive behaviour. He has two options: either he shuts up as told in this great article or he will be shut up by the Honourable Khaiyum. Beddoes seems to think he is above the law and he is a recidivist in inciting disaffection with the Honourable and Incorruptible Khaiyum. One more crime and we will send in the Gestapo to silence him for good!

  3. Bainimarama has stated not so long ago that he wants to win all seats in parliament because opposition parliamentarians would be obstrcutionist and hinder the advance of his “reform”. This was a key statement showing that he is not interested in a democratic process and aims for a legitimised autocracy. The demand for Beddoes to shut up in his personal gazette is just one more indication what type of democracy we have to expect. Instead of healthy, democratic debate Bainimarama will continue to bark orders and the opposition will continue sniping from the sidelines. Divisions in our society will be entrenched without a chance of reconciliation. What would be desirable is a clear statement by Bainimarama that he welcomes constructive policy debate with everyone. It would be desirable to refrain from bashing “old politicians” and acknowledge that they still may have a meaningful contribution to make. It would be desirable to come out and accept that the rules for Fiji First are the same as for everyone. Declaration of assets would go a long way to convince the electorate that the process is reasonably fair. It would also be desirable to accept public debate with opposition politicians. Now, lets have a look what to expect: Everyone who had the opportunity to meet and discuss with Bainimarama has sensed a lot of insecurity and a lack of willingness to listen any view that differs from his own let alone consider it. Larry Dinger may have been a bit over the top with his statement that psychologists would have a field day with Bainimarama but in the cocktail circuit in Suva a very common reaction to his obnoxious attitude is a shrug, often accompanied by some racist slur. And his side kick the AG is seen as a corrupt sleaze bag who is best avoided.

  4. Its a bit undiplomaticthing to say to a senior politician who is doing what has to be done. Shutting anyone up is not exercising freedom of speech and other rights. Nemani on theother hand is also just doing what he has to do to get his bread buttered thick with other toppings on it and he knows darn well how the regime rewards pleasers.

  5. Its the same Mick Bed dose that owes NBF slightly less than $1/2 million dollars and we tax payers have to fork it out.

    This ex leader of opposition has not paid the loan for the last 15 years.

    Mick, you are a thief and following the footsteps of one convict named Mahen chaudary.

  6. Rajen tatti fella was a big FLP underware.
    I hope he can drop a few lines of his former master in chief barka bhaia convict Mahen chor and enlighten his views on the now convicted criminal.

  7. It is one thing to look and think about historical events from a human standpoint. It’s quite another to see things from god’s perspective. Man being who and what we are, will always miss the mark, no matter how long and dedicated our efforts. But god, being who and what He is, always hits the mark, regardless what situation or issue He comments on.

    Here we are in Fiji, just like in many other countries, trying to makes sense of our situation. We take certain perspectives and make comments and observations accordingly. Many times we will agree. Many other times, we agree to disagree. But we will never have a perfect commentary and a total understanding of our life issues and situation, simply because we have only a partial view and we tend to be partial in our judgements, no matter how objective we try.

    May I suggest that we take the time to discover what God has to say in our situation and follow Him wherever He leads us. When we leave out God from our private lives, we tend to leave him our from our public lives. But we cannot do that, no matter what we think or do. We simply can never leave out God from anything and anywhere, because He is everywhere and He is all knowing and He is all powerful. We are but a manifestation of His divine essence and His purpose. Let the secular state policy makers be warned. God is sovereign. He will have no other god before Him. He is God alone. There is no other. If you doubt this, then you have not understood human history. You have not seen that nation of Israel. Israel represents the truth I am trying to highlight here.

    May I submit that Fiji can be like that tiny nation of Israel. From a desolate and dry land to a thriving and prosperous nation, defying the logic and explanations and pseudo-intellectualism of man. How is it possible that a small nation, daily threatened and surrounded by its enemies, can continue to thrive and become a powerful and successful nation today? Surely, there is a God and He cares about whole nations too. I just wonder what is His take on what is happening in Fiji today. He already knows our future from our beginning. Why not we just surrender to Him and let Him take control. Maybe, we can be like the nation of Israel, in a way or two. Just wondering.

  8. It is one thing to look and think about historical events from a human standpoint. It’s quite another to see things from God’s perspective. Man being who and what we are, will always miss the mark, no matter how long and dedicated our efforts. But God, being who and what He is, always hits the mark, regardless what situation or issue He comments on.

    Here we are in Fiji, just like in many other countries, trying to makes sense of our situation. We take certain perspectives and make comments and observations accordingly. Many times we will agree. Many other times, we agree to disagree. But we will never have a perfect commentary and a total understanding of our life issues and situations, simply because we have only a partial view and we tend to be partial in our judgements, no matter how objective we try to be.

    May I suggest that we take the time to discover what God has to say in our situation and follow Him wherever He leads us. When we try to leave out God from our private lives, we tend to leave Him our from our public lives. But we cannot do that, no matter what we think or do. We simply can never leave out God from anything and anywhere, because He is everywhere and He is all knowing and He is all powerful. We are but a manifestation of His divine essence and His purpose. Let the secular state policy makers be warned. God is sovereign. He will have no other god before Him. He is God alone. There is no other. If you doubt this, then you have not understood human history. You have not seen that nation of Israel. Israel represents the truth I am trying to highlight here.

    May I submit that Fiji can be like that tiny nation of Israel. From a desolate and dry land to a thriving and prosperous nation, defying the logic and explanations and pseudo-intellectualism of man. How is it possible that a small nation, daily threatened and surrounded by its enemies, can continue to thrive and become a powerful and successful nation today? Surely, there is a God and He cares about whole nations too. I just wonder what is His take on what is happening in Fiji today. He already knows our future from our beginning. Why not we just surrender to Him and let Him take control. Maybe, we can be like the nation of Israel, in a way or two. Just wondering.

  9. @ Tomasi

    I like the idea that Frank was sent by God, to test the education system of Fiji. To see if with one idiot in power, that might ruin a country’s future forever.

    Travelling through rural Fiji today however, and you will see that even the smallest of villages know which way the wind is blowing and see that Frank and Aiyaz have no plans for our future, other than for them to stay out of Jail.

    Freebie First is a party with that one, simple goal: to stay out of Jail. They have no one with any talent for leadership, any brains for government, or any hope for economic growth.

    Why anyone thinks that what Freebie First are doing is good, is beyond me. The only thing that they seem to have been able to do in eight years of rule is give out some cheap sewing machines, fill 3 and a half potholes, destroy our media and judicial systems, ruin the economy and put up a lot of roadside signs asking the people to “report” corruption to the same people who are committing the corruption.

    Their slogan should be: Vote Freebie First! Get 10c off Your Next packet of Bongos! At least that might make more sense.

  10. @ Tomasi. I’ve read your various postings and here’s my view:

    What are you trying to say? That Fiji be declared a Christian State and we outlaw other religions? You want non-Christians chased out? You want them to be second class citizens like what European countries have experienced long before you wee born?

    What are you saying?

    Alot of Christians world all over do not agree with your stand!!! Alot prefer a secular state where religion and the state are separated. Alot of faithful Christians are insulted by what you are writing as your views are very narrow and you are very naive as you are trying to box God and make him small.

    Alot of Christian voters believe God is taking control of Fiji and believers are present in all parties. You write as if God is not present or for Fiji First. Do you know the devil is also present and working very hard in SODELPA, NFP, FLP PDP???

    I urge you to come out of your small box and open your eyes and see the wonders of this great God.Please stop your ridiculous claims.Take out that sheep’s clothing you are wearing so we can see the wolf in you.

  11. Perhaps it would be useful if Tomasi could give us the address and telephone number of this god he is talking about, perhaps then we can ask him for his view and make our decisions based on that.

    But until he is able to do this the majority will live in the real world and deal with the tangible.

  12. @Radiolucas, thank you for your concise and thoughtful comments. You summed it up well.
    To my critics, @Tom’s father 2.18 pm, and Anon 3.06 pm, thank you also for trying to defend the indefensible. It’s obvious you support Voreqe. I wonder about that but respect your right. Let’s continue to talk. Let me try and help you understand where I am coming from and where I am going in my various comments.

    You claim I want Fiji to be a Christian state and that God is also present in all of the parties, including the Freebies Party as Radiolucas has appropriately named it.
    Please listen well my friends. I hope I could talk to you face to face. I also pray for the day when we in Fiji will be able to talk freely again. What I say here I will tell Voreqe and Khaiyum in their faces, if they so choose to accept a public debate on national TV. I am not a politician neither an aspiring one. I am just a humble citizen of Fiji trying to protect my country, my communities and my family from the ravages and destruction caused by Voreqe and his group of criminals, associates and sympathizers. So, please tell Voreqe and Khaiyum, to organise a live public debate so that we can talk face to face. Then the people of Fiji and the world will hear the whole truth and judge for themselves.

    Now very quickly to your comments, let me say the following:
    1. I believe that if we honour God in our private lives and in our public actions, discourses and policies, Fiji will be a much better nation. That is not only my opinion, that is precisely what God had promised us. If you wish to quarrel with that, then I suggest you take it up with Him.

    2. God allows things to happen ( good and bad, just and evil, right and wrong, etc) because He He gives us the freedom to live the way we choose to ( moral choice). There is nothing that happens without His knowledge, for He is omniscient (all knowing) and His eternity means He exists outside and independent of time, and He knows the end from the beginning. He created time as a parameter to help us make sense of who we are. We are simply creatures of time, space and matter. One day we came, then suddenly and in a moment, we are gone. That is true for every person and dictator and thief and murderer on earth.

    3. Although the above is true, it does not necessarily mean that God inspired Voreqe or Rabuka or whoever criminal to do wrong. Yes He loves all of us, but not our sins (wrongs and injustice). He was there when people conspired to coup the Government, but He was not necessarily an accomplice to that illegal and immoral act. God even allows the devil to carry out all these evil and unjust actions. It’s the devil that inspires evil thoughts and actions, not God. But God still loves Voreqe and He will forgive Voreqe and all his associates if they admit their wrongs and humbly seek His forgiveness. This also requires a public apology and reconciliation to seek and obtain the forgiveness of those families being wronged and our nation.

    4. God does not need a telephone number. If that was the case, then all the unforgiven people who lived before Graham Bell would be doomed in hell, coz they would not have been able to call heaven. It also implies that thousands of our people without phone access are doomed for hell. To even talk about God needing a phone number is to relegate God to our level and is somewhat ignorant and bordering on the sacrilegious and blasphemous my friend. Please do not talk about God in a demeaning manner. Confine your smart aleck attitude to people and things. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Munch on that awhile please.

    5. On the issue of Fiji becoming a Christian state and the separation of religion and politics, let me say this briefly and with emphasis. If I was to advise the future PM of Fiji and his cabinet, I would ask them to actively mobilise adequate resources to appropriate institutions, organisations, communities and individuals to plan and implement strategies to strengthen the nurturing, development and growth of the Biblical and Christian values, principles and practices in our nation. This would transform our business, economic, social, political, community, family and personal lives. God created us for a purpose, and that purpose is summed up fully in the two famous Torah teachings. Love God and Love your neighbour. Upon these two fundamentals principles, we can formulate all our laws and policies and strategies for our own private lives, our families, our villages and communities, districts, companies, corporations, nations, etc

    6. Unlike people and friends who want to be politically correct (fools who deny God in public), I would not hesitate to insist that we acknowledge God in all our ways because He will direct us. Is this being discriminative to our other citizens and non-Christians? Yes and No. Yes, but we cannot help insisting on Godly principles or risk God’s displeasure. No, because if we really apply Godly principles in our daily lives instead of just preaching and shouting incessantly on Saturdays and Sundays, our other non-Christian citizens would be able to see God’s love, and goodness and beauty and glory and wisdom in us. They would then be convinced to give God a try by our love for one another and our love for God. My many non-Christian friends include our Indian and Chinese brothers and sisters. They became convinced of God’s love not because of endless preachings, but through the love of God they felt when they interact with us and our families and friends. Some are very devoted Christians today. As Christians, our primary goal is to love God and love our neighbours. The faith and religious affiliation our friends choose is their business with God. Our aim is to love people, all people, not to convert them. Our motive for reaching out to non-Christians must be our compassion for people and obedience to God. It is not based on self- righteousness or religious fanaticism. Ours is not a religion, but a life and relationship with God Almighty just like the Hebrew people.

    7. Finally, @Anon 3.06, on your reminder about living in the real world, God is real and more so than many realise. To deny God is to deny reality itself. You seem to imply that faith is unrealistic, meaningless and irrelevant. Well, please know that the Bible is the most miraculous, accurate and authoritative record of human history. It traces the real history of a real people living in the real worlds gone by and are still living in the real world today, with a real successful story of how real God can be in the lives of real people and a real nation amidst real enemies. If you need more help to realise this reality, then please let me know how I can help you, because I think you really need real help. You remind me of the story of the prodigal son. He sounded so sure and certain of his plans and goals away from his family. He ended up lost, utterly lonely and needing a real life and purpose. Thank God he admitted his error in judgement and returned home. Who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going? These are deep and real questions that can only be satisfactorily answered by a reference to God. Without God, we lose our ability to define our existence. Without Him, we are just like zombies, accidental incidents in a greater cosmic accident in time. That my friend in UNREALISTIC, ILLOGICAL AND ABSURD.

    If God is not supremely important, then He is of no importance at all. Yes, I want Fiji to be a God centred, Bible based and people oriented nation. Then and only then can we expect God’s favour, miraculous power and abundant blessings. He promised that, so please better believe it. Other religious teachers have important lessons to share. But Christianity embraces every race, group and people. It represents the surest foundation and the most blessed hope for a better life here and in the hereafter. It defines the past, the present and future so accurately and convincingly so many thousands of years ago that its accuracy defies logic and predates the complexity of modern man’s most miraculous invention, the computer. You see my friends, the truth does not discriminate on its audience. It just declares itself without apology, enlightens those who hear, comforts those who listen and liberates those who believe. “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.” Vinaka

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